These may look like the same fish, but I think they are brothers! Almost exact length and weight. 28.5" = 8#14oz 29" = 8#10oz Wasn't fooled into ...more thinking they were Bass this time. Lost 3 others, and one bigger than these that was ripping drag. They must be putting the feed bags on for the Winter. First cat I've caught in here in 2 years! They sure can fight!